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csd
12-27-2013, 11:10 PM
Do any of you folks use a tube buffer at the beginning of your chain, just before your pedals? I've been looking at 2 in particular, and thought id ask you all?
Pedal steel players (and electric/acoustic players) use a black box (SGBB) by Sarno and I've also looked at a buffer from Red Iron Amps.
Any insight? Thanx in advance.

C :D

tom
12-28-2013, 09:52 AM
I use one at the back end. I use the Barber b buff which I built into my volume pedal so the guitar never see the load of that pot. I'muusually not far from my amp but I could be with this.

Pietro
12-28-2013, 10:44 AM
I have a buffer up front. helps keep the tone together.

dannopelli
12-28-2013, 12:21 PM
I typically keep my compressor on all the time, so for all purposes I do. It is after my wah and tuner.

csd
12-28-2013, 03:11 PM
Thanx for some comments guys.

I am using a solid state buffer at the beginning of the board, into a volume pedal (with a TT on the tuner out), through a few drive pedals for a bit of boast and saturation - different colours then to the amp. Most of my tone is the amp. Pedals in the front are strictly for lead. I have an M9 in the f/x loop.

I find that the pot in that VP Jr. is a great tone sucking little diablo!!! I am pondering these buffers available, if they are going to fix that? Will i be able to still use that volume pedal where it is or should it be relocated as Tom has his placed?

How would your signal chain be?

Thanx :)

tom
12-28-2013, 05:28 PM
The 250k pot in the Jr, will dull any unbuffered passive guitar signal. A buffer before it changes your signal to low impedance so the dulling is gone.

Pietro
12-28-2013, 06:13 PM
I've actually tested it using the loop function on my HD 500.

The VP Jr. sucks no tone... if... you buffer before it and do NOT use the tuner output under any circumstances...

tom
12-28-2013, 10:10 PM
Being active, the loop is probably low impedance, so no issues. If you put that 250k pot aftersa passive pickup, you'll load the pickup for sure.

csd
12-29-2013, 11:56 AM
Thanx tom and pietro for the insight. I only am playing anderson pups. Nothing active in my guitars.
Thanx again :)

bruce
12-30-2013, 02:48 AM
These work great from Fryette / VHT

http://www.sfdamp.com/valvulator.html

Having 2 outputs is a cool feature and it can power a few pedals

csd
12-30-2013, 09:45 AM
Thanx. Bruce. I will check this out a little closer. Appreciate the link.