Planet Waves Tuner

[dannopelli]

Anyone have any experience with the new Planet Waves tuner? Any comparison to the Turbo or Peterson. I understand it has built in BF presets.

[tom]

rodger from sonic research came by on tuesday and brought one along with a beta version of a modded tt. the planet waves does have the offsets, but i found the display to be unfriendly to look at. it was also considerably slower and would not let me tune to the attack, something i've found very rewarding about the tt. the pw is cheaper for sure and might be fine for sitting in your room, but the tt wins by a mile for live and super critical use.

[dannopelli]

rodger from sonic research came by on tuesday and brought one along with a beta version of a modded tt. the planet waves does have the offsets, but i found the display to be unfriendly to look at. it was also considerably slower and would not let me tune to the attack, something i've found very rewarding about the tt. the pw is cheaper for sure and might be fine for sitting in your room, but the tt wins by a mile for live and super critical use.

Thanks Tom. I actually have two of the TT's. But being a gear hog I had to inquire!

[pipedwho]

If you're really a gear hog, check out the new TC Electronics Polytune. ;)

Unfortunately, I don't think it does BFTS.

I still love my TTs. :D

[dannopelli]

Nice concept on that one for sure! I think you are right about the BF. Makes it WAY not worth it.

[pipedwho]

I think the Polytune is one of those things that will be great for some people, but in many cases will turn out to be more of a cool gimmick than a huge productivity boost.

The TT was a huge boost to me, because like Tom said, you can tune to the attack and quickly alternate between strings purely due to its super fast note tracking speed. It also has excellent tuning accuracy and of course can be programmed with the BFTS offsets which improve the tuning of the guitar.

The TT is also fast enough to test (muted slow strum) all the strings one at a time in a couple of seconds.

That being said, it would be cool to tune a guitar with a floating bridge and watch the other strings go flat while you tweak the offending string sharp.

Good times. :)

[Casper]

I had the PW on my board for a year or so, but that thing is/was a brick. I have had the Peterson SS2 on my board for the last 4 years and it is a dream. Its at the end of my chain and a couple of years ago, my (then) Rivera died on a gig..The Peterson has a DI XLR out so I was able to play the gig! It malfunctioned once and Peterson was way cool to deal with. I think the TC is a way cool idea if you don't like strobes, but I am also hearing good thingsa about the Korg Blackbox....

[dannopelli]

I think you mean the Pitchblack? Does it do BF?

[Casper]

Maybe it is the pitchblack? I thought I read a review on the black box? Unsure if it does BF..but the Peterson does!

[tom]

the polytune is slow so you'll never tune to the attack. also the display looked pretty small for my old eyes.

[Casper]

Amen Tom! And thats a big deal to my old eyes too. I love that I can see the Peterson in broad daylight at outdoor gigs and its lighted for dark stages..

[mdrs]

It might just be me, but I don't know that I totally understood the visual readout on my Peterson. I always seemed to have a difficult time establishing the "end point".

I'm a TT guy at this point......fast, easier to see the display AND to read the endpoint, smaller, and cheaper............What's not to like? :)

[dannopelli]

I use the 200, but that is because they are in my boards. I was thinking of getting a 122 to replace the DT7's I use around the house for acoustic, but like you, now I want to see what is in the works.

[tom]

we have the 122's at all the benches and it is beyond fabulous, but not really intended for pedalboard use. but if you could keep it protected and didn't need the switching capacity of the 200 pedal tuner it could be fine and it allows for more tuning options. like if you had it coming off the vol pedal tuner out, like i do it would be fine. i have the 200 there and leave it on all the time so i can even check tuning without muting. all that said, the 200 has plenty space for custom tunings and offsets and is smaller.
as for what might be coming new from sonic research, i would not want to presume what will or will not make it into production. i am playing with some beta versions right now but they would not do things you could not already do with the custom settings on the 200. rodger is a very nice and brilliant guy who is constantly working to make his tuners both the most accurate out there but also easy to use.

[ehsaan]

Hi I see a lot of guitar players who use TA's with the Buzz Feiten or Suhr's with the system using regular Boss Tuners which dont have the BF offsets . How do they tune the guitar with regular tuners ?
Thanks

[tom]

you can tune with a regular tuner, but the results will not be as good, still better than without the feiten system, but not as good as it could be. i have been through an evolution of tuners form "normal" to the turbo tuner and i am way happier now.
some with boss tuners tune the E note on each string. our method is tune high E normal. tune the B as slightly sharp as is possibl;e to see. then tune the bottom four strings using the 7th fret harmonic.

[kevin h]

you can tune with a regular tuner, but the results will not be as good, still better than without the feiten system, but not as good as it could be. i have been through an evolution of tuners form "normal" to the turbo tuner and i am way happier now.
some with boss tuners tune the E note on each string. our method is tune high E normal. tune the B as slightly sharp as is possibl;e to see. then tune the bottom four strings using the 7th fret harmonic.

My experience has been the same as Tom mentions. I used the method Tom talks about with both Boss TU2 & TU12 tuners for years with pretty good results.

Then I joined this forum and heard about the Turbo Tuner.

Like Tom, I am much happier with the Turbo.

[dannopelli]

My experience has been the same as Tom mentions. I used the method Tom talks about with both Boss TU2 & TU12 tuners for years with pretty good results.

Then I joined this forum and heard about the Turbo Tuner.

Like Tom, I am much happier with the Turbo.

For $129 you can't beat it! I have two!

[tom]

i have 6 so i win:D
just teasin'. they really are unbelievably good. almost every day roy comes in and raves about how fast and accurate they are after using one at home. when i'm testing guitars it's just so easy to make sure strings are stretched and tuned.

[ehsaan]

Hey what is a Turbo Tuner ?

[tom]

http://www.turbo-tuner.com/

[ehsaan]

thanks tom !!!

[mdrs]

I have a couple of ST-200's, and also have a ST-122 that I use for the acoustics, and for when I'm changing strings........it's great for open tunings too. They are both accurate, fast, and easy to read. The ST-200 pedal is very small and pedalboard friendly.

[Big Harry]

Hey what is a Turbo Tuner ?
Altogether with my first TAG , this is the best part of equipment I ever used to own , and I've got a full room of equipment :D
Once you get to BFS and TAG realm , Turbo Tuner 200 is only way to go ,up to date .
TAG without TT is not the same , and opposite .
That is where all of the rest of beautiful guitars without BFS you may own become second ones ....


Tom and guys ,
Could you be so kind and elaborate a little bit more "tuning on attack " ?
Imagine you are addressing a guy who know nothing about tuning and TT display , please .
I want to check if I'm doing the right things (obviously Yes , that's what my ear tells me )
Thanks
Zoran

[tom]

when you hit a not it quickly goes flat if you let it ring. you want to tune to that first second of the note. hit the note and tune. if you're not there in one second, hit the note again, and again if you have to. if you let the note ring, you will notice that the note goes flat on the tuner. my experience is that when you tune to the attack, everything sounds more in tune. the turbo tuner is the only tuner i've found that is fast enough to read the attack.

[Pietro]

I didn't see where the offsets are built-in for the turbo tuner, do I need to track them down and program them in? Or is there a mode?

I need to upgrade my poor old DT7 Pro, which is, frankly, a little slow.

I wish I could program BFTS offsets into the Line6 M13, MAN that tuner is fast.

[tom]

you have to program the bfts offsets into the tt. it's easy and rodger will talk you through it if you're button impared(like me).
i know someone asked rich at line 6 about the tuner but i never heard back whether it was possible.

[dannopelli]

Check out this thread:

http://andersonforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=5702&highlight=turbo+tuner