5-way switching with M PUP's?

[GASMAN]

I'm looking at a Hollow T with an M1 neck, and TM3 in the bridge. Have not had a chance to go play the guitar and could use some help understanding the 5-way switch.

What exactly does the kickback option do? The description is 5-way with "kickback switch" , but there is no mini toggle on the guitar. I take it the kickback switch is one of the 5 positions?

As you can see----I'm a bit confused (Ha). Could someone walk me thru the 5 positions, and explain the kickback option? Thanks much.

[tom]

1. neck full.
2. neck kicked back(more single coily)
3. both full
3. with tone pulled both kicked back
4. bridge kicked back
5. bridge full.

[GASMAN]

Ahhh------so there's a pull tone knob option? Does not list that on the description.

Sounds like basically the same set up as a 2 humbucker Anderson. That's cool!

Oh, and while I'm on the subject of M PUPs---------how would you compare their output to your soapbar PUPs?

[tom]

yes, very similar in function to a dual humbucker guitar.
the m1 has a bit less output than a p90. the tm3 should be pretty similar in output to a p90.

[GASMAN]

Thanks for the info, Tom. Very helpful-----as always.

[michaelomiya]

Clarifyin question: the TM2's do not split and therefore cannot be used in the "kick-back" application? However, the TM3's do split.

Is that the only difference between the TM2 and TM3 the wiring? any material impact on the tone - e.g. the TM2 lower output or more vintage tone?

[guitarzan]

This one had me thinking long and hard, too, as I'm awaiting a Classic with 3 Ms. I think the Classics have a mini-toggle, though, since strat players (named corey) would want to use the 2 & 4 positions.

[tom]

split and kickback are two entirely different things. tm's can both be kicked back but we do not recommend splitting either.

[michaelomiya]

split and kickback are two entirely different things. tm's can both be kicked back but we do not recommend splitting either.

so "kicked back" would refer to a "single-coil-ish" tone from the M's (the kick back is a passive circuit that rolls out some middle and a little bottom that makes it more single coil sounding while still being humcancelling.)

question then, TM2 or TM3 for more quack-y tone? And can both be wired for "kick back"?

[tom]

correctomundo on kickback.
the tm2 is a natural nice balance with the m1. the tm3 would be used is you're looking for a big jump in vol and fatness. both actually quack pretty good when kicked back.