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West
06-21-2006, 02:37 AM
could some knowledgable person ;) give me the output measurements for
va1 / va12 ......... also for sa1 sa2+ as a comparison many thanks

cheers West. sorry should have posted in tech :eek:

tom
06-21-2006, 10:43 AM
not sure what you mean by output? dc resistance would not be relative for different construction styles. in a va12, the weaker sound is a va1, and the hotter one is very close to a va2 which is louder and fuller sounding.

West
06-22-2006, 08:20 AM
not sure what you mean by output? dc resistance would not be relative for different construction styles. in a va12, the weaker sound is a va1, and the hotter one is very close to a va2 which is louder and fuller sounding.

Sorry if it came across unclear :o i just wanted a dc resistance mearsurement as a compassrison
i.e : suhrs v60lps are 6.4k (neck) to 7.3 (bridge) i just wondered what sa's measured and what va's measured ?

I'm finding the va's arn't doing it for me on my hollow swamp ash guitar, i like the sa's on my solid drop top ( in split mode only) a lot of people are raving about suhrs v60 lps i'm just thinking of having a change :D

many thanks cheers West.

Roy (maybe)
06-22-2006, 11:29 AM
Although 6.4K is hotter and more wire than any vintage pickup I have ever seen or played--and I certainly have not seen all of them--it is understandable that players enjoy an uncharacteristically round sound. This is why we also offer VA12s. They can be switched between 6K—approximately—and a warmer but still somewhat vintage setting. We also offer VA2 for those who never want real vintage-level output.

If you like the SAs you have, an SA may be your preferred pickup. Don’t be fooled by the volume jump in split mode, series mode actually has less highs—just turn you amp up a quarter of a number on the volume—about 3db. Don’t compare volume and tone—just tone. With that said, all vintage style pickups pull very hard on the stings because all the pole pieces are magnets so they have a different inherent sound and sustain quality that some players like and some cannot enjoy because they feel it impedes sustain and flow. SAs have very low magnet pull and ring out better.

Because SA are made differently than vintage, their reading will be higher but will not reflect that in their actual output. They are warm, clear and percussive with a little more power than vintage but as I said before this comes from more than one factor.

All are good, just a matter of opinions. Fun stuff.

West
06-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Although 6.4K is hotter and more wire than any vintage pickup I have ever seen or played--and I certainly have not seen all of them--it is understandable that players enjoy an uncharacteristically round sound. This is why we also offer VA12s. They can be switched between 6K—approximately—and a warmer but still somewhat vintage setting. We also offer VA2 for those who never want real vintage-level output.

If you like the SAs you have, an SA may be your preferred pickup. Don’t be fooled by the volume jump in split mode, series mode actually has less highs—just turn you amp up a quarter of a number on the volume—about 3db. Don’t compare volume and tone—just tone. With that said, all vintage style pickups pull very hard on the stings because all the pole pieces are magnets so they have a different inherent sound and sustain quality that some players like and some cannot enjoy because they feel it impedes sustain and flow. SAs have very low magnet pull and ring out better.

Because SA are made differently than vintage, their reading will be higher but will not reflect that in their actual output. They are warm, clear and percussive with a little more power than vintage but as I said before this comes from more than one factor.

All are good, just a matter of opinions. Fun stuff.

Thanks for the info Roy, food for thought. :D

cheers West.

Roy (maybe)
06-23-2006, 09:38 AM
Oh you are welcome West,

Guitar talk, there is nothing much more fun. Stay tuned as we always have stuff we are cooking up too.

I can say no more, Tom's looking over my shoulder.

Maybe