Floyd.

[BAN]

So, the more I think about my new Anderson, the more I'm thinking about ordering it with a Floyd Rose. I was just wondering what the Board's impressions were of Floyds these days. I've heard horror stories about saddle quality, overall quality, etc---especially when compared with older Floyds. Anyone have an opinion one way or the other?

Oh, and thanks for the tip last week, enr1co---I got down to Gelb music this weekend and had a blast playing the different Andersons on hand.

Thanks,
Brett

[sylvanshine]

Bought 4 Andersons in the last year with Floyds. Sure, after a couple of weeks of heavy playing you break a string or two, but that happened in the 80's too. I notice no tone loss from having a Floyd. In fact, on a Drop Top T it seems to have a mid range presence that is unlike any other Andersons I've heard. Know of 2 other guys on this board that have DTTs with Floyds, perhaps they will chime in.

FWIW, I think you need to go the full rock package and get at least an H3 in the bridge.

What other specs were you considering?

[BAN]

Thanks for the input.

As far as specs go, I was originally considering an Atom or Cobra because I typically like the feel of the 24.75 scale. But after playing a bunch of 25.5 Andersons this weekend and absolutely loving the feel of them, I decided I will most likely go that route. Another deciding factor was that I wanted the H-S-H pickup combination and the Switcheroo system---both of which are unavailable on the Atoms and Cobras.

Was figuring I'd go with the H2+ in the bridge position, but I wouldn't mind hearing an H3 to see what that's all about. Other than that, I was going to go for a Drop Top T with quilted maple top. I am, as yet, unsure of the body wood.

Does the Floyd system have any effect on the Buzz Feiten tuning?

Brett

[sylvanshine]

You probably learned too that Floyds aren't available on Cobras.

You are correct that with the DTT, you could get your Floyd, Switcheroo and the H-S-H.

To my ear, something magical happens at 25.5" with maple over mahogany.

BF is standard on Floyded Andersons.

Here is where I ended up in my quest...

http://www.sylvanshine.net/IMG_0773.JPG

[BAN]

Those are a couple of gorgeous guitars. Is everything the same other than the colors?

[sylvanshine]

Bora Bora has some out of phase sounds wired in and now sports a Drop D Tuna, but other than that they are identical.

[brian b]

I just picked up an older Pro Am with the Kahler Floyd. And unlike some other floyd gutiars I had such as a wolffie and a Phil collen model, this one stay's in tune. And I'am really digging it.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/bcbtoby/purpleanderson001.jpg

[BrianH]

Floyd all the way.

[Casper]

Just saw this post..My first Anderson had a Kahler Steeler Trem and I gotta tell ya, when it finally wore out, I put a Gotoh Floyd in and it wasn't the same. Kahler (imo) made the best. I've had Floyds on 2 other Andys and didn't like them as much as the Kahler. I miss the Floyd thing, but I don't get the blazing solos anymore in the band I'm in now.

I thought hard about a particular Classic on Gbase.com right now that has that trem on it. You diehard Floyd fans oughta give it a look..its a mint 93 Classic in Dark Cherry, I believe Southworth Guitars has it for sale for $1800.00? It had a 1-11/16 nut..I'm a 1 5/8 guy.

[BrianH]

The key here is, if you want a Floyd trem then it has to be a Floyd Rose.
The Gotoh and others are not made the same. Has to be a real 'Floyd Rose' tremolo. There is a huge difference.

[StevieK]

If you want to get a Floyd, I would suggest to get an OFR (Original Floyd Rose). I don't think there are any quality concerns with these. Many of the licensed floyds are not made to the same quality. The Kahler Steeler as mentioned and pictured on the Pro Am above is an excellent quality bridge, but not made anymore. I had good experiences with the Schaller floyds also, but they're not quite as good as the OFR or the Steeler in my opinion.

[BrianH]

The current OFR is Schaller made, and they make very good stuff.

[tom]

since the early 80's floyds have been made by schaller. we have to disassemble evry one to make them work. schaller is not what they used to be. the father died and the son ws killed in a car wreck a few years ago, and they have not been the same. the ofr is still the best out there, the kahler steeler is still my favorite. it had it's weirdness too though.

[Hollow Cobra S]

Tom, Valley Arts made some Custom Pros with Kalher Trem. Do you happen to know what model VA used? Thanks so much.

[enr1co]

Oh, and thanks for the tip last week, enr1co---I got down to Gelb music this weekend and had a blast playing the different Andersons on hand.


Glad to hear the trip to Gelb was productive- They carry a good variety of Andersons to appeal to almost any player/style.

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[BrianH]

since the early 80's floyds have been made by schaller. we have to disassemble evry one to make them work. schaller is not what they used to be. the father died and the son ws killed in a car wreck a few years ago, and they have not been the same. the ofr is still the best out there, the kahler steeler is still my favorite. it had it's weirdness too though.
Tell me about it!
It is becoming impossible to get product from Schaller these days, and you can’t get any answers from them on it.

[dpeterson]

i personally love the original floyd rose. the kahler steeler was the next best choice, it's built like a tank. i've used thim since the 80's (first one i ever got was on a focus 1000 kramer). I cant tell a difference between an old one and a new one. the licensing is what killed the floyd's rep. cheap knockoffs that sucked tone.

they have their place.. would i want every guitar i own to have one? no. i like being able to easily tune sometimes, and thats where other guitars come in.

dave