NGD: Mahogany Classic T

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Finally got around to doing a proper NGD for the new Classic T. Great little rock guitar. Sage Green Metallic with matching headstock. Solid mahogany, shorty scale, caramel maple neck with chocolate maple board, 60's vibe 1 5/8" with low rise frets, M1- and TM2 with 5 way, kickback, and VA boost.

Compared to my Hollow T Classic with alder top on alder back, maple neck, and TV pickups, this new one is a totally different animal. The mahogany body and maple neck with the little humbuckers are way more of a tight focused rock sound. It really barks through a cranked up amp. Think AC/DC Malcolm Young. The alder hollow one is much prettier and cleaner sounding, classic. The mahogany is all attitude. Love em both!

[GDane1]

Sweet rocker!!

Love that neck too!! Mmmm chocolate and caramel . . .

[brokenvail]

Oh my. Those spec sound sweet!

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Love the look of the neck. And pics absolutely do not do Sage Green Metallic justice. Gorgeous color in person.

[Salmon]

beautiful color! the caramel+chocolate too:cool:

[dsouza.b.a]

beautiful color! the caramel+chocolate too:cool:

Killer neck grain!! :D

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Just wanted to follow up on this guitar. This wood combo was a bit of an experiment as it isn't very common at all. But I have to say this thing is absolutely killer sounding. It's tight and punchy with a great attack. It's quickly becoming my favorite guitar.

[Daenius]

!!!!!!!!!!

[brokenvail]

I had a Zakk Wylde Camo Les Paul's custom. That was mohogany body maple top with a maple neck/board and it was my fav LP every. I regularly hear that is not a good wood combo. It makes me think I have bad taste and my ears are busted

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You should hear this thing thru my Clark tweed Super clone with two ten inch greenbacks totally cranked on the volume. It just barks with the most glorious old school crunch. And the bass stays tight. Love it.

[Daenius]

I had a Zakk Wylde Camo Les Paul's custom. That was mohogany body maple top with a maple neck/board and it was my fav LP every. I regularly hear that is not a good wood combo. It makes me think I have bad taste and my ears are busted

It just happens to be John Suhr's least favorite combo. Don't remember exactly what he said, but some people say it tends to be a bit fizzy on the top end. Now I think that's possibly due to the way Suhr pickups sound. Suhr humbuckers are usually PAF style, but with an extra sparkly top end compared to most typical humbuckers. That top end probably ends up getting emphasized as fizz if you run mahogany body + maple neck. This is probably especially true with the Suhr SSH+ humbucker, which happens to be John's personal favorite. That pickup can get pretty damn fizzy at times, and it's actually my least favorite Suhr pickup, lol. I much prefer the SSV and the mighty Aldrich, but I digress.

I have 2 guitars that are mahogany body + bolt on maple neck. An Ibanez RG3120 and a Fernandes MG. I run a Dimarzio EJ Custom set in the RG and it just sounds nice and chimey without any problems of fizzy top. In the Fernandes I run a Duncan Custom and again with a deep sounding hot pickup like that it works out perfectly fine too.

All in all I think it's hard to just isolate one part of the formula when it comes to electric guitars. So picking on a certain wood combo isn't the fairest way to estimate how the tone will turn out, because you've got stuff like scale length, bridge hardware, pickups, nut material, amp settings, and most important of all the player's technique to take into consideration. Funny story, I have a friend who gets a huge giant chunky bridge pickup tone, and when he uses a neck pickup he sounds so muddy that he never uses the neck pickup. We played the same exact guitar, same exact rig, and I don't sound muddy on the neck pickup, while he still sounds muddy, and then my bridge pickup tone sounds whimpy in comparison to his big giant powerful bridge pickup tone. That man is born to be like EVH I guess, haha

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All great points. This one is short scale. I'm sure that's a huge factor. The M series pickups are unique as well. And add to that I'm not typically a super high gain player and I have a lighter touch with my picking.

[pipedwho]

All in all I think it's hard to just isolate one part of the formula when it comes to electric guitars. So picking on a certain wood combo isn't the fairest way to estimate how the tone will turn out, because you've got stuff like scale length, bridge hardware, pickups, nut material, amp settings, and most important of all the player's technique to take into consideration. Funny story, I have a friend who gets a huge giant chunky bridge pickup tone, and when he uses a neck pickup he sounds so muddy that he never uses the neck pickup. We played the same exact guitar, same exact rig, and I don't sound muddy on the neck pickup, while he still sounds muddy, and then my bridge pickup tone sounds whimpy in comparison to his big giant powerful bridge pickup tone. That man is born to be like EVH I guess, haha
So true. People that have a single guitar/amp start to play to their equipment to get it sounding the way they want. For example, something as simple as where you pick the string in relation to the bridge changes the tone dramatically. How hard you might pick a particular string because it's louder/softer than the other string(s), or how much pressure you use on the fretting hand for each string in a chord to subtly improve the harmonic relationship of the triads. I've even found myself changing my style of playing to suit the guitar/amp.

The tone control on the guitar can work wonders on a bright pickup, and a little break up on the amp (which is a combination of player string impact, the pickup output level/tone, and the amp settings) that can make a dark guitar sound much brighter and 'alive'.

There's so much variability in the player that greatly affects tone that it is easy to overlook that as one of the biggest impacts on the overall tone of the instrument/amp.

[brokenvail]

It just happens to be John Suhr's least favorite combo. Don't remember exactly what he said, but some people say it tends to be a bit fizzy on the top end. Now I think that's possibly due to the way Suhr pickups sound. Suhr humbuckers are usually PAF style, but with an extra sparkly top end compared to most typical humbuckers. That top end probably ends up getting emphasized as fizz if you run mahogany body + maple neck. This is probably especially true with the Suhr SSH+ humbucker, which happens to be John's personal favorite. That pickup can get pretty damn fizzy at times, and it's actually my least favorite Suhr pickup, lol. I much prefer the SSV and the mighty Aldrich, but I digress.

I have 2 guitars that are mahogany body + bolt on maple neck. An Ibanez RG3120 and a Fernandes MG. I run a Dimarzio EJ Custom set in the RG and it just sounds nice and chimey without any problems of fizzy top. In the Fernandes I run a Duncan Custom and again with a deep sounding hot pickup like that it works out perfectly fine too.

All in all I think it's hard to just isolate one part of the formula when it comes to electric guitars. So picking on a certain wood combo isn't the fairest way to estimate how the tone will turn out, because you've got stuff like scale length, bridge hardware, pickups, nut material, amp settings, and most important of all the player's technique to take into consideration. Funny story, I have a friend who gets a huge giant chunky bridge pickup tone, and when he uses a neck pickup he sounds so muddy that he never uses the neck pickup. We played the same exact guitar, same exact rig, and I don't sound muddy on the neck pickup, while he still sounds muddy, and then my bridge pickup tone sounds whimpy in comparison to his big giant powerful bridge pickup tone. That man is born to be like EVH I guess, haha

It seems to not be anyone's fav. I believe Tom is not a fan of this wood combo if I recall. I never heard Suhr fav bridge pup was SSH+. The way he talks I would have sworn it was the SSV.

Back to this guitar. I find the M's in neck to be dark. This wood combo might help with that. I have nothing but praise for the TM2

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Down the line I might try a solid mahogany S classic with a caramel maple neck and ziricote board. I've been playing with that on the spec sheet. Maybe that non fine tuner / no lock nut Floyd for kicks. And some hotter pickups. Maybe an H2+ and a couple SC2s.

[Pietro]

...People that have a single guitar/amp start to play to their equipment to get it sounding the way they want. For example, something as simple as where you pick the string in relation to the bridge changes the tone dramatically. How hard you might pick a particular string because it's louder/softer than the other string(s), or how much pressure you use on the fretting hand for each string in a chord to subtly improve the harmonic relationship of the triads. I've even found myself changing my style of playing to suit the guitar/amp...

OMG, so much this! Recently I'm finding that virtually all my electric playing at home is with my Atom CT. And the only other electric I have (besides the Crowdster) is a fantastic T that I modified to get just how I want it... so yesterday I brought that one to church and regretted it.

I'm afraid I've become a one-guitar-guy...

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OMG, so much this! Recently I'm finding that virtually all my electric playing at home is with my Atom CT. And the only other electric I have (besides the Crowdster) is a fantastic T that I modified to get just how I want it... so yesterday I brought that one to church and regretted it.

I'm afraid I've become a one-guitar-guy...

I keep all my 5 electrics in heavy rotation. I find that if they don't get fairly equal love when I go to one that has been neglected a while it sounds strange and I have a hard time. That is what lead to me listing my HTC for sale

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Down the line I might try a solid mahogany S classic with a caramel maple neck and ziricote board. I've been playing with that on the spec sheet. Maybe that non fine tuner / no lock nut Floyd for kicks. And some hotter pickups. Maybe an H2+ and a couple SC2s.

You lost points with the FR and h2+ lol

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I actually have a Raven on order. Do I get some points back? :D

[Daenius]

It seems to not be anyone's fav. I believe Tom is not a fan of this wood combo if I recall. I never heard Suhr fav bridge pup was SSH+. The way he talks I would have sworn it was the SSV.

Back to this guitar. I find the M's in neck to be dark. This wood combo might help with that. I have nothing but praise for the TM2

I remember reading that somewhere but I can't find it anymore, maybe it was just the website saying it's their most popular pickup and for a while it was the pickup that was installed in pretty much every Pro Series except for the Classic Pro (before they super expanded the Classic Pro). But either way, I think with the SSH+ the weakness of the particular wood combo could be amplified when plugged in, pun semi-intended.

Personally I usually prefer other combos, but with the right pickups I think this combo is fantastic in its own right, as we're seeing with this guitar :D I never got to try the M pickups, super curious about them!

[brokenvail]

I actually have a Raven on order. Do I get some points back? :D
depends. If the raven had a h2+ then you get 1 point back. I it has something else then you get both points back :D

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PQ1 and PQ3

[brokenvail]

PQ1 and PQ3

Your points have been returned

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Phew. Thanks. Alder body, caramel maple neck, rosewood board. Short scale, 60s vibe, low rise frets. Vintage trem, locking tuners, chrome. Metallic Amber with tortoise guard. Should be a fun guitar.

[brokenvail]

Phew. Thanks. Alder body, caramel maple neck, rosewood board. Short scale, 60s vibe, low rise frets. Vintage trem, locking tuners, chrome. Metallic Amber with tortoise guard. Should be a fun guitar.

It is not to late to switch it to a maple board instead. That would greatly increase my gas to buy it down the line should you ever decided to move it on :D